Scorpio Models- BR Standard 4 4-6-0 kit. Mr Pulham your advice is needed

York Paul · Nov 9, 2017

I've just gone and ordered the BR Standard class 4 4-6-0 kit as supplied by Scorpio Models yesterday... you know one of those impulse buys, anyway speaking with Mr Ennis this is an upgraded version of the old Transport Age etches of which I've heard variable feedback about. Now I'm not exactly new when it comes to brass etch kit building so I'm not frightened about tackling this one, however my question is this has anyone built this kit or what is the general opinion of the Scorpio kits. I believe the tender etches are originally from Acorn but I may well be wrong. Can any of the more experienced scratch builders here advise please Mr Pulham .
Incidentally I saw the Scorpio advert in the latest Gazette that came through the post.cheers Paul.

Toto · Nov 9, 2017

I'm sure mr Pulham will be along. I'm interested as to what he has to say about Scorpio models in general as well as specifically on your kit.

They are not a kit I've seen much of.

Toto

York Paul · Nov 9, 2017

Cheers good Sirhttp://www.click, I've got to ring Mr Ennis in the morning to change my order, I asked for the BR1B tender option... what I need instead is the BR2 tender... should be in time as I only posted the cheque yesterday. lets hope I'm in time.
The loco I want to model is 75031 which ended its time as a Stoke 5D allocation until witdrawal in 1966 and scrapped at TW Ward Beighton in May 1966. I'll photo the etches and contents when they arrive. I do know the kit contains both the single and double chimney option. The reason I ask this is that until a few days ago the was an untouched Transport Age 9F with a few extras on ebay for Â£320 and it didn't sell. This was an early kit so presumably the etches were the unmodified ones which some people are a bit wary off.
Cheers Paul

Toto · Nov 9, 2017

You have got me curious now ( that could be expensive ) I'm off to have a look at their website.

We have a kit section in the rolling stock category. It would be great if you could post up your pictures when it arrives.

Cheers for now

Toto

Rob Pulham · Nov 10, 2017

Hi Paul,

Sorry I am not sure how I missed this given that it has my name in the title

As I understand it the Scorpio range is made up from two ranges the original Scorpio range which was run by the son PG Ennis and the Seven Models Range which was run by Dave Ennis (the father). The son took over when Dave retired.

The only complaint that I have heard about the Scorpio Models range is that some of the castings could have been better but the kits themselves have a good reputation. I haven't built any because they are mainly GWR prototypes.
The former Seven Models range are the mostly BR standards range that derive from the Transport Age kits.

The Transport Age range were designed by Jim Harris and they are very much like marmite in that people love them or hate them. Although I haven't built any I do have a Jim Harris designed J94 kit in my stash to tackle at some point.
I have heard people say that Jim Harris kits are unbuildable but I do know that the Seven kits can be made into superb models and I would suggest that you look on RMweb for the builds by a gent called Peter who goes under the username of PAD
try here - Duke of Gloucester

And one from the Scorpio range by the same guy - Scorpio 51xx
Another prolific builder Ken Mason (goes by the username Jazz) also has good things to say about the Scorpio Range (I am not sure that he's built any of the former Seven models range).

York Paul · Nov 10, 2017

Hi Rob,
Thanks for the great advice and pointers, I've started reading the DoG thread... very informative indeed. Apparenty the Standard 4 kit I've bought from Mr Ennis at Scorpio has been modified / upgraded from the old Transport Age etches apparently, so I'll find out soon what that means. Lets hope I haven't got meself a pig in a poke so to speak. it was a toss up between that or a Gladiator 8F.
cheers Paul

Keith M · Nov 11, 2017

I don't imagine you'll have got yourself a "Pig in a poke", Paul, in my innocence (or ignorance) I've previously bought a couple of kits that er......lets just say that they 'Lack recommendation'! Even if (as seems unlikely after Rob's comments) the kit isn't absolutely correct in details, a bit more work or detailing may be required to make a good model an excellent one, it's all a learning process anyway, and as Rob has said previously, the best way to learn is to get on and do it. Don't forget to show us how you get on with it once you get started.
Keith.

York Paul · Nov 12, 2017

Thanks Keith, I'm sure the revised Scorpio kit will be fine and anyway I like challenges but then I haven't got the kit yet so its not fair of me to pass judgements. When I built Jim McGowen's LNER F5 last year it was an extremely pleasurable experience and I learnt a lot from that, brass kit building with solder jointing doesn't frighten me at all... I just haven't do much apart from making my signals and a few wagons. Toto has also asked for pictures and I'd like to do a thread of this project, start with pictures of the contents and etches laid out for folk to see. Right now I've got an NSR 3 plank wagon on the table which I've started to build up from JLTRT, a good start has been made on scratching an LMS upper quad cantilever bracket signal and finally I've been working a bit more on the bodyshell of the BBT Hymek. Right I'm off to take a few more pics of the workbench stuff and then my missus can size them down because I haven't a clue how to do that..
cheers Paul

Rob Pulham · Nov 12, 2017

Is Line Clear wrote:

it was a toss up between that or a Gladiator 8F.
cheers Paul
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I have to confess that I would have gone for the 8F - purely down to the period that I model BR Standards don't really interest me. That said if someone asks me to build one for them I would suddenly gain an interest

I do have a part built MOK 8F that my good lady bought me when she was made redundant.
I look forward to seeing the build.

York Paul · Nov 12, 2017

Rob Pulham wrote:

Is Line Clear wrote:

it was a toss up between that or a Gladiator 8F.
cheers Paul
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BR Standards don't really interest me. That said if someone asks me to build one for them I would suddenly gain an interest

I do have a part built MOK 8F that my good lady bought me when she was made redundant.
I look forward to seeing the build.
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And as they say around these parts of East Yorkshire... HOW MUCH !!! Seriously Rob thqnks for all your advice it's much appreciated. I'm not ruling out a Gladiator 8F kit either.
cheers Paul

Rob Pulham · Nov 13, 2017

Is Line Clear wrote:

I'm not ruling out a Gladiator 8F kit either.
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