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Wagon design drawings

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  1. Apr 22, 2019 #1
    Toto

    Toto I'm best ignored Staff Member Founder Administrator

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    I'm on the look out for wagon design drawings with plans and sized dimensions etc. I've just bought a couple of books, the details of which I'll post up but if anyone knows of any with the emphasis on drawings / plans etc, I'd appreciate the details. Mostly stock up to the 70's would be best Scottish, LMS, BR and LNER etc.

    Cheers

    Toto
     
  2. Apr 22, 2019 #2
    paul_l

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    I have the Highland Railway Carriages & Wagons book by Peter Tatlow - good selection of drawings and you know where it is when you need it. Also have a copy of Carriages & Wagons of the Highland Railway by DLG Hunter some good drawings and pics, and some drawings are mere sketches with overall dimentions, again you know where they are.

    Somewhere in the loft are a lot of scans of Ian Beattie drawings from the Railway modeller, I will need to look for them.

    Worth looking for are the LNER series of books by Peter Tatlow - Grey in colour, 4 volumes (5 books), can't remember the exact breakdown, but vol 3 is Ex Scottish Pre group Wagons and vol 4 is LNER standard wagons - he must have taking lessons from Hollywood as the last volume is over two books.

    Amazon links
    1 Southern Area
    2 Northern Area
    3 Scottish Area
    4A - LNER Standards - Opens and Hoppers
    4B - LNER Standard and other designs

    Check the prices as some of them are over £80 for a second hand copy - £45+ for someone to remove the cellophane wrapper wow, I'm in the wrong job.

    Paul
     
  3. Apr 22, 2019 #3
    SBt

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    Nothing beats the real item, a tape measure, note pad and a nice warm summers day!
     
  4. Apr 22, 2019 #4
    paul_l

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    That's me b#####d then, normally on the rare occation we have a warm summers day, I normally get to work in the boiler house, not sit outside. On my day off it rains :whatever:

    Looks like I will need to investigate this concept :scratchchin:

    Paul
     
  5. Apr 22, 2019 #5
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    Toto

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    The highland carriages and wagons is one I've just bought ..... :facepalm: the Scottish voĺume 3 area is the other. Oh well.

    Timber, I'll have a look at your links

    Cheers

    Toto
     
  7. Apr 22, 2019 #7
    paul_l

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    Nice set of resources, would be nice if HMRS gave a price £0:00 on each link, but then give an apply for quote link is a little worrying.

    Paul
     
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    Timbersurf

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    If you drive to an item, they are priced per print dependant on paper size!
     
  9. Apr 23, 2019 #9
    Toto

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    Yep, I picked up on that. There us a drop down menu. :thumbs:
     
  10. Apr 23, 2019 #10
    Rob Pulham

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    As you might imagine I have quite a large collection of wagon drawings.
    Most are prior to 1948 but I have a few BR example's I think.

    Many are digital but I have around 120 paper drawing's as well.
    If you let me know what you want specifically I will have a look.

    If you are planning wagon kits and you need a test builder then I am your man. I am never more happy than when building wagons.
     
  11. Apr 23, 2019 #11
    Rob Pulham

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    Another couple of book's of wagon drawings are "Wagons worth modelling" by Bradford Barton 2 volumes
     
  12. Apr 23, 2019 #12
    Andy_Sollis

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    Rob, do you have any modern image? I’m still trying to source some for the PAA (despite having the real thing) and also one of the other sand wagons of which only one again made preservation... an MTV later ZKV?
     
  13. Apr 23, 2019 #13
    Toto

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    Really some common vans and open wagons first would be good. Dimensions would be better.

    I'd like to get half a dozen on the go to start before venturing into the more obscure.

    Toto
     
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    gormo

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    G`day Toto,
    Found this on an internet search..........maybe of some help??.........there are wagon drawings with measurements.
    http://www.barrowmoremrg.co.uk/Prototype.html
    :cheers::tophat:Gormo
     
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    Toto

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    Cheers gormo,

    I'll get a peep at these tonight.

    Toto
     
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    Andrew Thompson

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    Hi Toto
    Have a look at HMRS constructing 5 " Gauge Wagons. I attach a photo of the very detailed plans that are included drawn to half scale for 5 inch . IMG_20190423_152211748.jpg
     
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    Andrew Thompson

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    Forgot to add .
    Regards
    Andrew
     
  18. Apr 23, 2019 #18
    Andrew Thompson

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    Here's a better picture should have turned the book over. IMG_20190423_152913621.jpg
     
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    Toto

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    Many thanks

    I'll get a look at these when I hit my hotel tonight

    Cheers

    Toto
     
  20. Apr 23, 2019 #20
    Rob Pulham

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    Most drawing dimensions can be scaled if you know a key dimension like the wheel lase or height from the rail. That's how I scale my drawings for the Silhouette Cutter.
     
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