David Andrews Princess - 6206 Princess Marie Louise

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  1. Toto

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    Great build Rob. Top drawer as usual. Love the detailing.

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  2. paul_l

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    And you all wonder why I get apprehensive - looking superb

    I'm hoping 8F firemen are from hardier stock and just shovel coal manually - or in other words one per year :avatar:

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  3. Rob Pulham

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    Just follow the instructions and you will be fine. Sadly I tried to bite off more than I could chew at the time and instead of building it from the box I tried to make too many modifications that I didn't have the skill or confidence to see through at the time. I do keep picking it up and doing a little more and as soon as I have my last commissions behind me I will get stuck in and finish it.
     
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    Yeah just keep plugging away at it Rob it’s looking good. I’m sure it will build into a fine model. Having built quite a few of David Andrews kits over the years, mainly SR prototypes Dave’s philosophy was if you can’t see it why model it. But they do turn into nice models. I remember years ago Dave asked me to do a test build and amend the instructions on one of his SR kits. Well I wasn’t satisfied with it as is so I went to town with the detailing. Although he was impressed with the build I can’t recall if he included any of it in the production model.
    Regarding the Princess, if I remember correctly, I believe that only two or very limited members of the Princess class were available as kits from Andrews. I know one was for Princess Ann but can’t remember the other numbers but then again my memory’s faded and it was a long time ago.
    Might be the reason why the coal pusher wasn’t included in the kit? I know it was included with his Duchess kits
     
  5. Rob Pulham

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    Only one of the Princesses was ever fitted with a coal pusher tender, probably as a trial for the Duchesses which came out a short time later. So I can see why he wouldn't include the option.
     
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    While mulling over how to get the fire iron tunnel in place and the left hand side to fit without a gap I decide to make up all the little details that contribute to the whole.

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    The castings for the intermediate buffers were a little soft around the edges so I turned some from nickel that are a little more crisp looking.

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    I did the same with the windlass handles for the brakes/water scoop
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    Next, I moved onto the springs and hangers. Several of the dampers had become detached from the springs. The white metal pins are the vulnerable parts so I decided to replace them.

    First, I cut off all the dampers and pins from the springs. Next, I used a burr that came with a set of tools for the Dremel in the mill, to mill out the remains of the pin between the frame of the damper. I had to slow the mill down to 320 rpm in order not to over heat and melt the white metal.

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    I used a clothes peg to hold the springs to drill them again using the mill.

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    I cut lengths of brass rod to replace the white metal pins. I made a jig from a piece of ply with a blob of bluetac and a hand vice to help with soldering.

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    Not the prettiest of soldering but they look a lot better.

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  8. Rob Pulham

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    Pretty much all of the external detailing is now complete. Studying the only photograph that I have of the rear of the tender (LMS Loco Profiles No4 Page 84) I noted that there was a small fitting with what initially looked like a single outlet pipe. Which is how I fitted the small casting, that I found tucked away in the corner of the castings bag.


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    However, having checked the Finney Duchess instructions and then looking at an a scanned and enlarged view of the fitting it seems that there is indeed a second pipe so I will need to revisit it and fit a second pipe if I can.


    I have posted elsewhere of the lamp irons that I milled from recycled plug pins but I haven’t showed them fitted.


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    Rob this build of your loco is looking nice. :tophat:
     
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    I forgot to add that, for some reason probably oversight, there were no castings for the steam heat pipes. I had a look in the spares box but the casting that I had wasn't very good so I made one up from rod, scrap etch and fine wire.


    I also made the vacuum pipe removable (screwed on from underneath by a 10 ba screw) to ease painting.
     
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    A few good sessions at the bench over the last couple of days has seen the tender finished, aside from one remaining task. I have made the cross frames which fit between the wheels removable via some brass angle soldered to the inside of the outer frames. One of them needs to be cut to fit around the scoop operating mechanism.

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    Despite having built several Stanier tenders now, this one has been the most challenging to date. Some of that has been due to the large half etched panels and straightening out the bowing of them brought on by the etching process. The remaining fight has been with the fit of the coal space.

    Not that clear in the photo below due to all parts being nickel, but in order to finish of the left side, I had to cut a triangular strip 3mm wide tapering to nothing over 55mm

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    Here we are with the axle box/spring castings just rested in place for the photos. They will be fixed in place after painting.

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    If you zoom into the photo below you can see that I did revisit the second feed pipe on the coal pusher mechanism.

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    Beautiful work Rob and a lovely completion.:tophat::tophat::tophat::tophat:
     
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    Shows off the caricature very well. Nice one! :thumbup:
     
  14. Rob Pulham

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    Thanks Gents,

    I hope for an easier ride with the loco despite its additional complexity.
     
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    :tophat::tophat::tophat::tophat::faint: nuff said

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    Hi Rob - superb model, and almost no solder in sight, amazing - boy have got a ways to go.

    Congrats on Pic of the week

    Paul
     
  17. Toto

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    Well done on picture of the week.

    Excellent workmanship as usual. A treat to look at.

    Thanks for posting.

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  18. Rob Pulham

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    Thanks Gents that's a nice surprise.
     
  19. Toto

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    Hey ..... I hope you are not blushing .... :oops:

    Terrific work.

    Toto
     
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    Looks fantastic, seems a shame too have to paint it. Hats off to all of you who make these models. :tophat:
     
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