The R GLR

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  1. Toto

    Toto I'm best ignored Staff Member Founder Administrator

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    Hi Chris,

    If you look at the 32nd post in this thread. Pictures 2 and 4 will give you an idea what's going on until I get back home and post some clearer more appropriate photos.

    Image number two shows where the cross over was ( I've since removed it and pieced the track straight through ) and picture four shows the long straight above the fiddle yard ( on the ramped section passing the shed door ) where the crossing will now go.

    I hope I am being clear enough mate.

    Cheers for now. As I said , I'll get better photos up when I get back home

    Toto
     
  2. SMR CHRIS

    SMR CHRIS Staff Member Moderator

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    OK I had in mind a 4 track crossover :hammer: ladder style for some reason.

    I guess it depends on how you will scenic this area.
    If you had the cross over side by side you could have a signal box for the crossovers .
    If you had the crossovers spaced out you get a potential crossing point/loop that you can park a short train/ Railcar / engineer's train in and be able to run round it. May even be able to squeeze in a station halt? As reasoning for the crossings
     
  3. Toto

    Toto I'm best ignored Staff Member Founder Administrator

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    Hi Chris,

    This area won't be seen. It will be hidden behind a retaining wall or an embankment. The twin track is just a transition between the levels.

    I suppose what I am trying to achieve is the smoothest and most reliable track work to prevent derailments. They will be controlled by Cobalt slow motion motors. Access for maintenance of the motors is from underneath for which there is plenty space. One of the reasons that I moved the crossover from the other side. I will also be able to access the track from the door side as this will be left open.

    Once I get these installed and tested, I can do a bit more testing of the rest of the track work and progress with the upper level baseboards.

    Or so in theory.

    Cheers

    Toto
     
  4. mattc6911

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    Paul the crossover was the one removed from behind frank as it was a pita to fit and would have been a nightmare to get to if anything went wrong so its being moved to the other end of the layout to give Tom better access
    We talked about maybe splitting it up a bit so he wont crack his bonce off a cobalt every time he enters under the baseboard :giggle:
    On second thoughts Tom just make sure one of the web cams is on and running to catch the sweary words instead mate, to give us all something to giggle at
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    Cheers
    Matt
     
  5. paul_l

    paul_l Staff Member Administrator

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    I suppose the real question is whether it would ever be used.
    As its in a covered area, what putpose does it serve, and will it be used for essential movement's.
    Just a thought while its in the pre hammer stage, and Toto is restricted from carrying out rushes of blood to the head. :avatar:
    Paul
     
  6. gormo

    gormo Staff Member Administrator

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    I believe any track in a covered area should be kept as simple as possible.
    Derailments are a fact of life on model railways, for many reasons, and they can be very subtle reasons, enough to drive you to the point of frustration. So keep it simple Toto......avoid Slips and Double slips etc. etc. in hidden areas if it is at all possible. Any points you use, try and use the longest , largest radius the track plan will allow. I think they are less likely to derail than the smaller radii points.
    The more complex arrangements are better placed in the visible, easy access areas, where you can assess and deal with any issues more easily.
    http://www.click Gormo
     
  7. mattc6911

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    I think Tom needs to post up a track plan of the lower area again to remind us what is there, I think this was a crossover on the two outer tracks which were needed for swapping stock over, but its been sooooooo long since it was b̶u̶i̶l̶t̶ started[size= I cant remember ][/size]:giggle:[size= ][/size][size=
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  8. Toto

    Toto I'm best ignored Staff Member Founder Administrator

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    Hi Matt,

    I'll have a swatch and see if I can find summit. I should have one somewhere. It'll be in a safe place. :avatar:

    Cheers

    Toto
     
  9. paul_l

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    Unlike the crossover :avatar:
    Paul
     
  10. Toto

    Toto I'm best ignored Staff Member Founder Administrator

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    here is one of how it was with the turnouts at the extreme right hand side.

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  11. Toto

    Toto I'm best ignored Staff Member Founder Administrator

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    Hi,

    I've decided to go and do a bit of a photo shoot of the R & GLR to let those that are not so familiar with it get an idea of what's going on. If nothing else, it'll get me out into the shed.

    I'll post up later today.

    Cheers

    Toto
     
  12. Toto

    Toto I'm best ignored Staff Member Founder Administrator

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    OK,
    just to mgive an idea of where these new crossovers are going, I decluttered the layout in order to try and get a few clear photo's. it was good to reintroduce myself to the shed again. I was beginning to forget what it looked like. ....... yes, :scratchchin: its still a mess. :avatar:
    Ok, to kick off I'll start with a shot of where the incline begins at what will be the start of the main level,
    here goes.
    this is where the ground level baseboards will adjoin the incline.
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    next up, a bit further down the incline away from ground level,
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    Now, the cross overs could go here but the access is not so good so we'll move on.
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    We round the first bend ( you will see the shed door in a minute ) and onto the next straight where i propose to cut in the cross overs.
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    There we go. the long straight in front of the shed door with the end of the fiddle yard below the incline. It should become clearer in a minute.
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    There we go, a look down the incline in front of the door. the straight will be about 5 or 6 feet long.
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    another shot of the same with the four sets of points overlaid on the existing track.
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    and another.
    Below this is the fiddle yard.
    The image below starts at the same place as before, underneath the starting point of the incline from photo one but shows the fiddle yard. You can see the start of the incline above.
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    and as we follow the fiddle yard round down towards the bend,
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    and around the bend
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    and towards the exit of the fiddle yard. You can see the room between the upper ramp and the lower level in front of the door which gives me good access to where the Cobalt point motors will go.
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    The area to the front of the inclines will be hidden with scenic breaks etc but the area to the door side will be left open for access. I'll be able to reach inside to work by standing outside the door or easily from underneath.
    and again,
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    and thats the pictures for the moment.
    So that is the mission. cut the points in and alter the wiring to suit. It just needs me to get my finger out and get it started. I may attempt that later this afternoon. we'll see.
    If I get these points cut in and wired, I'll then give the whole track a good clean and start test running it again as there are still a couple of issues with derailments. I need to determine if its the track or the back to back measurements on the bogies as some stock goes through without issue.
    Its just about getting started again. easier said than done but It'll happen.
    any comments, suggestions etc ......... feel free.
    cheers
    toto
     
  13. Toto

    Toto I'm best ignored Staff Member Founder Administrator

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    Hi all,
    after a bit of a conversation with SMR Chris I found out that BR Blue with large logo was of interest for him due to a spell spent over here in the UK back in the eightes so I thought ..........:scratchchin: ....... I've got some of them and I need to get the R & GLR back on the map again. So here especially for Chris are a few shots. nothing to exciting and it doesn't really give much away on the layout but it has put the R & GLR back on my own mental agenda.
    here we go,
    first up is a couple of shots of some Class 26's in Railfreight livery. Not BR Blue but large logo and from the same period.
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    and another,
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    Both needing weathered but I need some experience and skills there first.
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    They'd make a great double header and as you will see the mighty 37's starting to muscle in on the show.
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    and again with the 37's coming clearer.
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    and here we are, the Class 37's.
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    and again,
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    and another
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    and one last shot,
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    A class shot ....... :avatar:
    Hope you like the above.
    Now, I'm off back to the shed to take some rough measures for my highbridge Warehouse kit build.
    cheers for now.
    Toto
     
  14. paul_l

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    Hopefully you'll make progress on both soon.

    Now that the Scalescene bug has bitten there's no going back.
    Have a look at the warehouse kit, the low relief warehouse and low relief warehouse loading bay, between them you should get some ideas.

    Paul
     
  15. SMR CHRIS

    SMR CHRIS Staff Member Moderator

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    Thanks Toto for posting the Photos

    You have got to love a pair of twins with Large ----Logo's :giggle:

    A great set of 37's as well snap on some of them the Scotty Dogs just make them the ones to have.
     
  16. Toto

    Toto I'm best ignored Staff Member Founder Administrator

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    Yes .... A lovely pair indeed. The Scottie dogs were the Eastfoeld depot mascot in a Glasgow I'm sure.

    I am sure I have another 37 and a 47 with large logo but I think the 47 requires a running number to be added,

    Also one or two 37's with smaller seventies style logo.

    It's nice to see a fleet of them posed properly on a finished layout. ....... One day ......:avatar:
     
  17. jakesdad13

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    You will get there Toto, Rome wasn,t built in a day :thumbup:.
     
  18. Gary

    Gary Wants more time for modelling.... Staff Member Administrator

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    I must say that the pair of raccoons, I mean Class 26's, do look good in Rail Freight Grery !

    As for finishing a layout, you will one day, afterall, all good things take time ! ;) Now get a move on !

    Cheers, Gary.
     
  19. gormo

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    Ah yes Toto,

    The old R&GLR ........I`ve seen that name somewhere recently.?????

    It`s good that the railway is getting back into your head space.........still lot`s to do and I think that is the stumbling block. It certainly is for me sometimes.

    You assess the enormity of the task and it`s difficult to crack on at what seems a snails pace. But this is a long term build kind of hobby, so we have to constantly remind ourselves of how far we`ve come.

    It wasn`t that long ago that it was just an empty shed waiting for a railway and now trains can be run in there around a circuit that works.

    The answer is little bits done every now and then, and those little bits accumulate into a big bit.

    It will get done.....but not tomorrow.....it may take a little while yet.....but what`s the hurry.?????.....run some trains for a while.

    http://www.click:tophat:Gormo
     
  20. Toto

    Toto I'm best ignored Staff Member Founder Administrator

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    Thank you chaps,

    I may take those raccoons for a run at the weekend :avatar:
     

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