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Highland Railway Dia 17 Jones Double Deck Sheep Wagon

Discussion in 'Kits, Kit bashes & Scratch builds' started by paul_l, Oct 21, 2023.

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  1. Nov 11, 2023 #41
    paul_l

    paul_l Staff Member Administrator

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    Just wish they would both get it right and use 1:43.5, after all were combining everything to make everyone happy 7mm for the Europeans and foot for our colonial bretherin what more of a compromise can we make. :avatar:

    Paul
     
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  2. Nov 11, 2023 #42
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    Awestruck
    th (2).jpeg with your abilities :faint::faint:
     
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  3. Nov 13, 2023 #43
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    Now thats odd, as I've been trying to export the lamp top from fusion (its a modified purchase) and all it exports is the mantles for the gas light, but ignores the metal framework.

    I am as yet unable to find a way to get it to the printer
     
  4. Nov 13, 2023 #44
    Mossy

    Mossy A classic grump Yorkshire man Full Member

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    Andy

    How are you trying to export it? if you using the old snail way File > Export all the bodies you want to extract as an .stl need to be visible. If your using the new faster more detailed way first it must be visible > right click on a body > Save as a mesh, then you can only save one body, so if there are multiples, they need to be joined into one, using Solid > Modify > Combine. Pauls posting #24 is far more detailed.
     
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  5. Nov 15, 2023 #45
    paul_l

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    Forgot to mention they needed to be joined into one item.
    If this is an issue keeping then joined try this, join them, export the part then either click undo or move the cursor on the time line to before the join and delete the step. You're back to having the individual parts.

    Paul
     
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  6. Nov 15, 2023 #46
    paul_l

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    And finally he makes one up, but forgot to take build photos :facepalm:

    The roof and upper floor are not glued in place as I will need to paint the model before fitting them - some dope modelled interior detail, that will now need painting.




    Without the roof


    And without the upper floor, on this model I've used the lower floor in two halves, I printed a one piece floor, but was in green resin and is a nightmare to see any detail until its painted.

    And the underframe


    Paul
     
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  7. Nov 15, 2023 #47
    Mossy

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    It's that always the problem with the translucent resins you just can't see results with at least undercoat, thats why I don't use them.
     
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  8. Nov 15, 2023 #48
    paul_l

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    It does make it easy to spot my ABS prints tho'.

    Need to finish off the traverser so I get the space back for the spray booth.

    Paul
     
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  9. Nov 16, 2023 #49
    paul_l

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    Nuts, I fitted the wrong wheels 3'1" instead of 3'7"

    I don't have any 3'7" 8 spoke, so 3 sets on order and as a test I've fitted a set of 3'7" disk wheels


    Even lines up with the loco buffers - phew

    Paul
     
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  10. Nov 16, 2023 #50
    Andy_Sollis

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    Amazing! Fantastic results Paul
     
  11. Nov 16, 2023 #51
    Mossy

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    I guess your fully a convert to Fusion 360 these days, we just need to indoctrinate Mr Sollis now. I'm pretty sure once his gets his feet wet he will love it.
     
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  12. Nov 16, 2023 #52
    paul_l

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    Not sure a full convert, but I don't tend to revert back to 123D very often.

    Andy is far more proficient in 123D than I ever was, and will have a steeper learning curve to get to the same level. All I can say is the move and effort is worth it.
    I still have a long way to go to become proficient, and would recommend having a project to do, and stick to using Fusion to complete it.
    Still to get brave enough to try a coach, and have started on a couple of locomotive projects

    1. A Highland Railway Scrap tank

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    2. Highland Railway Barney - started on the tender first.

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    The original batch of Barney's built by Dubs were supplied with bogie tenders, subsequent loco's had a standard 6 wheel tender, and many of the original loco's had thier bogie tenders swapped with Small Ben's 6 wheel tenders where the increased capacity of the bogie tender was better suited to the 4-4-0 Smaller Bens usage.
    For me this means I can design / model 2 loco's and 2 tenders and end up with 4 different locomotives.

    However I digress, need to create number plates for the Sheep van.

    Paul
     
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  13. Nov 16, 2023 #53
    Mossy

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    Paul

    Isn't it just a naming of parts job to convert. My first IT job was working on Honeywell mainframes and later moved to an IBM shop. It was like listening to a foreign language until I sat someone down and went through a conversion process.

    Honey IBM
    UFAS (Universal Fila Access System) VSAM (Virtual Serial Access Method)
    Indexed KSDS (Key Sequenced Data Set)
    Serial ESDS (Entry Sequence Data Set)

    There are hundreds more. I could go on but basically the same things just hidden behind different words or abbreviations. IBM was all abbreviations, Honeywell most plain English. God that's over 40 years ago, time waits for noone!

    Perhaps it's my IT background but I see 4 or 5 design methodologies in Fusion, once I figure out which one I find the functionality simple to understand and pick up.
     
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  14. Nov 16, 2023 #54
    paul_l

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    I think it's more a philosophical difference, the results maybe very similar, but the methods to get there are very different. In addition 123D is a far simpler program aimed at beginners, so the advanced assembly, jointing and component features (I've yet to master) are not there. And then there is the timeline feature of Fusion 360, this just amazing.

    Go on Andy, you know its the right thing to do :avatar:

    Paul
     
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  15. Nov 17, 2023 #55
    Rob Pulham

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    Acronyms are fine as long as you stick within your own work sphere. Step outside and you quickly learn that your TLA means something completely different in Social Care, then different again in Highways, Legal etc.
    I never showed my ignorance, I just went away and researched the meaning in that particular context. And you wonder why nothing gets done in local councils.
     
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  16. Nov 17, 2023 #56
    Mossy

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    Having spent the last 20 years of my career working for an American company the world was awash with TLA's and yes if you don't know the meaning what the .... do you do. The one that always got me was THM, have a guess I bet you don't get it!
     
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  17. Nov 17, 2023 #57
    Andy_Sollis

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    I think you have the nail on the head there Paul. Yes is simpler, and you have also avoided the same new features as myself (although I did try them once… the best I managed was to make a prototype dambusters bouncing bomb rotate and bounce! But it has all been drawn in 123D)

    sometimes the only way to progress to something new is like when we have a new system at work, you take away the old.. if you don’t have the old to fall back to, you have to push on.. although I picked up ours fairly quick at work back in 2020, folk still come to me now nearly 4 years in to it being our live system asking how do you do this?

    and SAAB are still tweaking as other things develop.. and the best bet… we get sold on the fact it runs on 20+ servers, which all have a further 5 slaves so it can’t go belly up…

    only for someone to cut the phone lines one evening after a few weeks of being live.. only with this system they had put radio, command and control and telephony and cctv all in to one program.. and guess what.. it was back to the desk top or hand held radios. And one and paper.:facepalm:

    as for the little letters… RTC, POL1, Sect136 (medical may know that one) state 6, polac, FTS, 1/1… all the daily terms we use and then you get ones sent from other agencies, BDV, RRB.. all to make you think…

    btw, did you ever know that the 4 slip roads on to a motorway or dual carriage way are lettered? The roads are A and B (not to be confused with A or B class roads) with the slips being intensified as the J,K L AND M (J and L being off slips and K and M being on slips!)

    Every day is a school day!
     
  18. Nov 17, 2023 #58
    Andy_Sollis

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    I know what a TIA is in the medical term, and a TIC in my world, but a TLA??

    Go on!!
     
  19. Nov 17, 2023 #59
    Mossy

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    Three Letter Abbreviation
     
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    You should have worked in air traffic control we had books of official Acronyms and abbreviations
     
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