O gauge loco build.

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  1. 60019Bittern

    60019Bittern Full Member

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    Back to my own build. I have had other things on today, like shopping for food, new stamps etc. but did manage to correct the tank inners so that the feed holes are at the right end. I also encountered the first snag. Shaping the bunker back is a pig. It would be easier to reduce the thickness in the area the bend has to go by running a file across the whole width to make it more flexible. Remember that the piece is handed. On the bottom of one side are three very small etched in t-shapes. These must be on the outside as they are the marking position for the lamp brackets. I eventually managed it with the piece full thickness and any slight imperfections were smoothed out with some solder. I also fitted the valances on the footplate. These also are tricky to get them in the right place and to hold them vertically while they are soldered on. (This is where the second set of hands would be useful). The valances line up against the pips from the tank sides that poke through the tab holes in the footplate and you more or less need to centre them along the length of the loco by eye. I think I got it right. Tomorrow I will find out when I add the buffer beams.

    Bunker back in position

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    The body so far, resting on the basic chassis

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    More tomorrow.
     
  2. Toto

    Toto I'm best ignored Staff Member Founder Administrator

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    Looking very neat Bittern. I'm trying to take note of all the potential trip ups. This thread really is a great account of how to go about things. So many tips etc.

    :thumbs::thumbs::thumbs:

    Cheers

    Toto
     
  3. paul_l

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    Nice one, I must admit this looks a nice model to have a go with.

    Paul
     
  4. Toto

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    Oh oh ....... Wallet alarm is sounding :avatar:
     
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    60019Bittern wrote:
    When you have to put a curve in brass such as the bunker rear it is best to anneal the metal first, you heat the area to be curved with a flame such as a gas torch until the metal starts to turn blue then dunk it in water, this will soften the brass, then using a piece of dowel or some other round item press down on the softened part, I use a mouse mat to press down on as it will give enough to form the curve, its also how to roll boilers without rolling bars. Practice with scrap first.

    Cheers, Pete.
     
  6. Toto

    Toto I'm best ignored Staff Member Founder Administrator

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    :scratchchin: ...... Nobody mentioned thus guy Neal before. Now it's getting tricky. Can you hear the breaking glass as my bottle has just went ?

    I didn't think the bunker needed a curve made in it. Geeeeeeeeesh things have just taken a turn. :eek:

    I'm paying attention though.

    Cheers

    Toto
     
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    Thanks Pete. Will give it a try next time when I have to shape the smokebox wrap round.
     
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    SMR CHRIS Staff Member Moderator

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    This is turning out to be a top thread with the build.:worship:
    Good set of photos too :thumbup:
    I was going to chirp in and mention heating the brass but I see Pete has done already. :thumbs: tip for Toto to remember for his build.
    This is one of the benifit's of a forum like this everyone learning new tricks, plus getting the idea that "Everyone Can Doit" it's just a new set of skills to master, about the worst thing that could happen is burning your fingers :avatar:

    Keep the updates coming at this rate it will be pulling a train by the weekend :tophat:
     
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    Burnt my fingers already Chris. Don't know about running a train by the weekend though. Depends on the weather. If it's nice I'll be off bug hunting again and there is the small matter of a visit to the Bodmin & Wenford.
     
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    ianvolvo46 Staff Member Moderator

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    Steady the ship Toto with instructions this clear you'll have no problems at all.... ! ...but you go first don't wait for us

    Ian
    Great thread Bittern it makes me think that if I only do it once I should try a build like this... sometime

    :tophat:
     
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    60019Bittern wrote:
    I think everyone burns there fingers it come from I know what I'm doing now this bit will only take 2 seconds to fit "I'll Just hold it" Ok for the first few seconds then the heat soak reaches the fingers you have stopped with the iron by now but can't let go for fear that you will muck up that nice joint you just Soldered.:avatar:

    I'd be leaving the model to go visit the Bodmin & Wenford as well, enjoy the full size trains :thumbs: not sure on the bug hunting though to many that bite down under.:facepalm:
     
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    We've got a few that bite too Chris, but not as fatal as some of your beasts.
    Had an interrupted day today so only managed to fit on the buffer beams and solder up and fit the boiler. The buffer beams was the easy part, although it is relatively straight forward you still have to make sure that they are square and central to the loco width. The soldering up of the boiler is a bit trickier. The boiler comes ready rolled which is a blessing but the joint at the bottom is tricky. Ok, it is half etched and you need to make it an overlapping joint. (Burnt fingers No. 1). Once that has cooled you have to solder in a half round strengthener or former for the top part. This is also tricky and you have to work fairly quick otherwise the bottom joint will spring open again. Ok, mine didn't go in too square but it shouldn't hinder the next stage later on. The rear former is fairly straight forward but again you have to press down on the boiler wrap to make everything fit. (Burnt fingers No. 2). Once that was done you then have to fit the boiler into the loco body. It is a tight fit but reasonably straight forward. You only need to tack solder in a few places along the length to keep it in place and again when you solder the rear former to the cab front. Joints are internal and out of sight so as long as it is a good joint the cosmetics are not too important. I hope everything is square, it looks it. By the way the castings are only resting in position. I want to paint them first before fitting after the main loco body is painted.

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    Thats it for now folks
     
  13. Toto

    Toto I'm best ignored Staff Member Founder Administrator

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    Looking forward to the photos Bittern.

    Sounds like another productive session.

    Cheers

    Toto
     
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    Looking Really Good Bittern great photos of your progress :thumbs::thumbs::thumbs:
     
  15. Toto

    Toto I'm best ignored Staff Member Founder Administrator

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    First class , really looking good. I hope mine turns out half as good. Very clean job.

    Cheers

    Toto
     
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    Hi

    Looking really good.

    May have better luck soldering the boiler with 180 solder and the rest of the pieces with 145.

    Still impreesivie tho'

    Paul
     
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    Had a break today, went out filming as the weather was fine. Managed a bad shot of an HST power car running on the Paddington/Penzance duty. It was in 1970's Intercity 125 livery.
     
  18. Toto

    Toto I'm best ignored Staff Member Founder Administrator

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    Let's see it then. :avatar: the build is coming on a treat. Looks very neat and tidy.

    Cheers

    Toto
     
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    Have only managed to fit the rear steps today as have been busy running around trying to find a replacement lens for one I managed to drop and murder yesterday. It was a Nikon 70/300 and didn't bounce very well when it landed on a concrete pavement. Managed eventually to get hold of a new Tamron 70/300 for £250. Ouch!
    Toto, when you get down to starting a couple more tips to make life easier for you.
    On the footplate fit the valances and buffer beams whilst it is in the flat but make sure the tab holes remain clear of solder. Also mark of the position of the front and rear steps and fit those too.
    On the cab sides fit the beading around the top of the cab cut out whilst it is flat as well. It can be done after fitting etc. but it makes it easier to get the iron in. On the beading strips the raised section fits inside the cab.
    Will do some more sometime over the weekend and put up some pics.
     
  20. Toto

    Toto I'm best ignored Staff Member Founder Administrator

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    Thanks Bittern, much appreciated.

    I would walk in to all of these traps so provided I do a good run over your thread and note down the tips in sequence, I should well and truly benefit from what goes before me.

    Cheers

    Toto.
     

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