Rebuilt Patriot

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  1. paul_l

    paul_l Staff Member Administrator

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    On the download page the Motor Info, has the comment

    "Most newer decoders have built in current protection. The decoder will simply shut down if the current exceeds the maximum that the decoder can give."

    "With these decoders, the stalled current of the motor is not so important, but the maximum continuous current of the motor is very important. If this is exceeded, we want the chip to shut down to protect the motor. On the other hand, if a power hungry motor is quite happy to draw 2 amps when pulling a heavy goods train up the 1:40 gradient, we don’t want the decoder to shut down when we get half way up. As an example, our 10 watt Maxon motor has a stalled current of 7.5 amps but the maximum continuous current is only 0.85 amps, so the LokPilotDDC V4.0 decoder with a maximum continuous current of 1.1 amps is perfect for the job."



    ABCgears recommend (and stock) the LokPilot v4.0 decoder (non sound)

    I have included the ABCgears links as a courtesy they produced the info pages - other suppliers are available.

    Edit - LokPilot v5.0 is the latest version now available 1.5A continuous supply and 2.0A max load, with a 3.0A short term. Well within your usage requirements. Size 21.4 x 15.5 x 4.5 mm

    Paul
     
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  2. York Paul

    York Paul Staff Member Moderator

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    Bogie now united with the chassis again so job completed, the life guard irons were formed to shape and their length reduced by around 2mm ... these etch pieces were drawn oversize for some reason, anyway I laminated the motion bracket and the reverser bracket and then formed the cylinder etch ... the chassis will sit down correctly at the back once the loco body weight is added.

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    Made a start on fabricating the cab assembly which involved embossing the rivet marks and sweating in the side window bezels, that was the simple bit, however the actual cab assembly is not as easy as it looks, all angles have to align in parallel as that dictates how the boiler / firebox assembly sits or doesn't as the case may be. I used the top corners of the front cab plate to align the sides to... took some doing with patience but was done just with a square block against the external faces.

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    And that is where the job got to at end of day only it wasn't so as daylight fell I focused attention to cutting out and preparing the slidebar assembly. More pictures soon.

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  3. Keith M

    Keith M Staff Member Moderator

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    I think the front bogie modification is something I'll have to do something similar with on the Rebuilt "Merchant Navy" to stand a chance of getting it around the slightly less than 6ft curves of my layout Paul. It's still in the box presently whilst I get the 'Mojo' back again and make a start. Has Mr Ennis sorted the modifications out yet before you go for one???
    Keith.
     
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  4. York Paul

    York Paul Staff Member Moderator

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    Happy belated New Year Keith... if you mod the bogie truck with lateral springs leave the tension only slack and if your loco has to navigate around a 6' radius then don't add in the rear pivot with U strap which stops the bogie from over swinging. No I'm afraid having rang Mr E on several occasions last year indeed my last call was at the end of November he still hadn't completed the upgrades. I have my name down for one when he releases the model... when that will be I couldn't really say.
     
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    York Paul Staff Member Moderator

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    Recently completed forming the raves on this Stanier 4000 gall tender, have to say the tool tunnel was a bit of a challenge but it worked out reasonably well and as the instructions say "some filler may be necessary" ... nothing that can't look right under paint tho.

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  6. Toto

    Toto I'm best ignored Staff Member Founder Administrator

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    A terrific build Yorkie. The dressing around the tender edges has been particularly well finished. Looking very nice.

    Toto
     
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    paul_l Staff Member Administrator

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    That looks impressive - now I know where to send my 8F tender to for some corrective actions to get off the straight and narrow to follow the curves.

    Paul
     
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  8. Rob Pulham

    Rob Pulham Happily making models Staff Member Administrator Feature Contributor

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    You will find your MOK tender to be a much easier proposition despite it having much more detail and many more parts to it.

    I am in a similar position to Paul with the Princess tender, it fits where it touches. I will be updating my thread in the next couple of days now that I have finished the lathe and you will see what I mean.
     
  9. Keith M

    Keith M Staff Member Moderator

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    I seem to recall a year or so ago He told you it would be Easter before it was done........guess He didn't say what year though!:avatar::avatar::avatar:

    Keith.
     
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    York Paul Staff Member Moderator

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    Yes quite correct Keith he did indeed... quite disappointed really ... I was given some blurb about the cab roof being made into a lost wax casting this time as the kits etches for the roof were problematic. I haven't given up and I'll see if he has advertised it available in the next Gazette, Looks like it will be another long phone call.
     
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