Rebuilt Patriot

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  1. Andy_Sollis

    Andy_Sollis Staff Member Moderator

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    Rather than buying another full kit, have you asked on any other forums or groups of there is anyone who would wish to swap?
     
  2. York Paul

    York Paul Staff Member Moderator

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    No Andy I haven't asked preferring to build my own stuff.
     
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  3. Rob Pulham

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    I had the same issue with the J6.
    Thankfully the spare (wrong) tender is just right to go behind my C1 and the tender that came with the C1 will go behind the D2 for the test build which didn't come with a tender so all is well in the end.
     
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  4. Andy_Sollis

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    I was more thinking if someone had an unbuilt one to swap so you could build it and then just exchange any difference in a built one financially..
     
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  5. York Paul

    York Paul Staff Member Moderator

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    Ah but Andy... working this one right and we have another loco for the Leek layout... assuming I live that long of course :avatar::avatar::avatar:
     
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  6. York Paul

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    Good plan there Rob... maybe when speaking again with Dave it might be possible to offer different tender types on these Rebuild Class 7 locos as he does with the 8F kits. Interesting what research actually does throw up tho.
     
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  7. Rob Pulham

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    Oh yes, especially as I hadn't realised when ordering that David offers three different types of tender with the J6.

    Trust me to pick the wrong one and get part way through building it, when I realised that it didn't match the photo...

    I can only assume at this stage that my JLRT rebuilt Scot will have the right tender with it...It's to be "The Duke of Wellington Regiment (West Riding)"
     
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  8. York Paul

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    Rob I can confirm that The Duke of Wellington Regiment (West Riding) which was rebuilt by the LMS in 1944 ran with a rivetted tender, I have a photo of this engine taken at Manchester London Road in 1948, the loco is wearing an experimental livery with LMS on the tender sides and Gill Sans typeset number on the cab 46145. I'll take a picture for you tomorrow when there is good daylight.
     
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  9. Rob Pulham

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    Thanks Paul,

    That's useful to know. I have just had a look in the box and the tender sides are rivetted, no option for a welded tender included that I can see so I guess that they all had rivetted tenders at some point.
     
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  10. York Paul

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    I believe that 45530 (Patriot) and 46132 ran with welded tenders towards the end of their respective service lives, generally my research shows that of the Rebuilt Class 7 Royal Scots nearly all of them ran with rivetted tenders. The main differences visually between the rebuilds were the earlier style cabs and rear mounted sandboxes on the Scots whereas the Patriots had later Stanier cabs and individual sand boxes fitted below the running plate.
     
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  11. York Paul

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    Here you go Rob... how about this one for an unusual livery combination?

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    Loco now with a coat of grey primer, the tender will have to wait awhile. The pipe running along the side valance of the footplate is the AWS conduit circuit which was scratch made from 0.35mm wire and some very fine scrap etch off cuts.

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  13. Rob Pulham

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    Thanks Paul,
    I was going to say a little late for me but the window in my grouping world is tight with this one and even tighter with the Ivatt 4F, which was just a month old at nationalisation.
     
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    Well the rebuild was undertaken in 1944 if that helps.
     
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    looking great Paul. I I just hope I can get my two looking half as good when i get round to building them.
     
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    Nice build Paul. Looks the part and runs well :thumbup:
     
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    Thanks Kimbo... still needs to be wired up onto the pick ups and to have wipers fitted onto the tender... this Gladiator kit is a good design build with little or no trimming needed. The firebox design is a tad old fashioned (its the old school front lamination with inner solder seams then file to shape, works well and in many cases I'd argue probably better than a front firebox casting as per some of the Scorpio builds I've done.

    cheers Paul
     
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    Paul I am absolutely convinced your two builds will turn out as mint :thumbup::tophat: I'll certainly be following your build reports as they happen.

    cheers Paul
     
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    hopefully. i need to finish the standard 4mt, bulleid pacific and the j69 before i start anything else otherwise ill have a window sill full of half built locos lol
     
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