Paul/Andy any ideas? My printer is out of its attic home and in the spare bedroom in order to print the NBR fish wagons for Rob. In the down time waiting for Rob to ok the test fish wagon I took the chance to print the revamped V1 brake body, with the results below. I have done 5 print runs since the mono came in from the cold, the test Fish - printed like a dream, the fish floor (twice) with a similar failure to that shown above but much closer to the build plate. Then another fish floor, printed perfectly and this V1 body. After each failure I have drained and filter the left over resin and clean the tank and FEP with alcohol. Other than the first run (which worked) before each run I have used Paul's warm water- shake routine to make sure the resin is nicely fluid and the bedroom is nicely warmed but so what the ^%$£$ is going on, I'm fresh out of ideas.
It’s either there is still something on the resin floating, or… the tension may be going on the FEP?
Hi Andy its an almost brand new FEP and given the problems I have been filtering the resin before each print run, that's why I am very confused. Replacement FEP's have been ordered from anycubic so I will switch to a new one if/when they arrive.
Hi Mossy Re-level your build plate - always worth doing after any issues. Do you have any clear or green resin and try that instead of the grey. If this works then possibly needs the exposure increasing for the Grey resin. Also check the exposure power setting is at 80%. According to the Mono X, exposure power setting should be 50% for clear / translucent resins, and 80% for the opaque resins for the same exposure setting. Maybe increase the lift height by a couple of mm, incase it's a fep release issue As the peel seems to be along the same plank line, I gather you have printed this horizontal, maybe try angling the print even a few degrees may make enough of a difference. The other suggestion would be to add a fillet to the inside corner to beef up the cross section Hope this helps Paul
Thanks Paul as always a myriad of possible solutions, I will try work though them but first I will replace the fep but as this is a relatively new problem as per Andys solution first.
Gents got any ideas what this is: Screen captures from Chitu Raft Supports Start of chassis Then this what the ^&^%$%££" is it, it occurs half way through printing the chassis Then you get the body It prints exactly as portrayed by Chitu, its like there's a phantom raft or floor . I have check and all supports small. medium and large have raft Skate specified. I have even uninstalled and reinstalled chitu. I originally it was my fault but now I am completely stumped.
Hi Mossy I'd take a guess that the body, floor and chassis have a very slight gap between one of them or all of them greater than 0.05mm, so you end up with the print having nothing to stick to. Pic 2 - As you are printing horizontally, you will need to beef up your supports. They probably will not survive the peel process when the full body is printing Pic 3 - Chassis is printing with the outer supports for the Body being printed as well Pic 4 - looks like a offset planeis still visible (maybe placed there to get the spacing for the sides) and the stl export process has created it. Also not the two outer edges (top and bottom on the pic are not connected to the buffer beams, this will leave the in mid air. Pic 5 - Check your model, you seem to have an artifact / fillet at the joint. Run the check for islands check to see if it identifies any issues near the joint. I'd suggest fitting the floor and have it so that it overlaps with the body sides and the chassis. You can then add shed loads of heavy supports to the floor underside with at least 0.5mm penetration and a 0.7 or 0.8 mm size. Paul
Paul, Sorry I posed a question without the background, The stl is of a wagon chassis and body (but NO floor), it's Rob's fish mk 2 with improved strapping. Mk 1 printed without any problems. The first couple of test prints had a rouge platform which prints almost at the top of the chassis just before it transitions into the body so I started experimenting in Chitu. All I have done is open the stl then auto supported and sliced it, I would never dream of printing it. Then the first 3 screen shots are pretty much irrelevant, they show it sliced as expected, screen shot 4 is where the fun starts. The body starts at slice as a large rectangle and as you pass through the sliced reduces in size until it disappears after roughly 30 slices, there are then about another 10 slices of chassis before the body starts to print. I hadn't though of a visible plain and can't check as Fusion refuses to start, don't you just love cloud based software NOT. I can't do any further checks until it comes back online, grrrr. Your right about photo 5 I hadn't notice than, but it can wait till the big problem is resolved. Mossy
Sorry should have added, last night Rob sent me the F3D file and I gend the stl on my p/c, it had the same mysterious body, I also gend just the chassis and tried again - no foreign body. Frankly I am at a complete lost as to what is going on and am just stuck till Fusion 360 comes on line.
I still suspect there is a plain or some form of construction sketch or artifact visible when the model was exported. When I export to .stl (not used the f3d format yet), I hide all components, sketches, canvases etc, etc and just make visible the bodies I wish to print (export). As far as I am aware, the export facility is a fairly blunt instrument, and will try and interpert what it sees. Remember you are slicing at 0.05mm (or less), so something that is visible (by accident or not) will be rendered over several layers. Paul
I completely agree but till Fusion 360 gets its finger out I cant check, and yes I also hide everything that I don't want on the stl. I'm intrigued what that foreign object is on the last screenshot but again will just have to wait.
Before packing in for the evening last night I looked at the original fusion drawing where I had started to make the amendments but before I did a save as (I had already exported the successful file a few days before) Even though I had only done a few amendments via the parameter file having looked again, I had already broken it (I think). At least I think I know where I broke it if not necessarily how. Fusion has just opened for me. Screenshots in a few minutes to show what I have just tried to explain.
Ignore my last posting because I have just compared again and rubbished my theory.... I am now going to start with the file that printed and redraw the amendments on the drawing rather than the parameter properties list and see where I get to.
Rob, I dont know if you have noticed but, on the original F3D you had 4 corner plates as saperate bodies, on the improved version there are only corners 2,3 and 4. No 1 has been added to one of the body panels, could that be the mystery body on screen grad 4?
I think so yes, I am working my way through the amendments being careful not to combine anything as I go along but either Fusion or my laptop is pitifully slow today.
Since Fusion came back to life at 9:0ish its been fine on my pc, but I also upgraded to windows 11, as usual every icon has changed and functions been rearranged, when will they learn if aint broke don't fix it.
Was that a free upgrade or did you have to pay? - All registered Win 8 users were offered a free win10 upgrade but I haven't seen anything offering the same with Win 11