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  1. Jul 9, 2016 #21
    Toto

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    I'm afraid ones wisdom is rather bereft of any devine foresight oh one with the facial hair. Rest assured many who belong to this parish of wisdom shall on their steeds travel forth with the vision for the future of this table of many sectors and spilleth the beans.
    meanwhile have faith.
    toto
     
  2. Jul 10, 2016 #22
    paul_l

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    Fair tell why do I haveth a strangeth twinge in the backeth of ones neck :avatar:

    I assumeth, that this layout will progress from the plank competition to become a full blown exhibition layout, one possible solution could be a replaceable section, sector plate for competition / home use, then for exhibitions lift out the sector plate, replace with a board with the necessary point work leading to a fiddle yard at the end.

    Paul
     
  3. Jul 10, 2016 #23
    Toto

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    No sooner did I speaketh.:avatar:
     
  4. Jul 10, 2016 #24
    Gary

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    And speaketh too soon...

    There shall be no replaceable section, the table of many sectors shall be within one. Hereth I have the diagram of all it's glorious workings...

    These are all drawn up in Sketch Up (thanks for the tip Bruce !)

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    The sector plate will be a piece of the baseboard cut out, as the brown piece (above) shows. The opening will be widened towards the inner end of the sector plate. The pinion or swivel (bolt) will be located at the very end (baseboard edge), to allow longitudinal swing.

    The sector plate will be supported as shown below.

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    Below is the adjustment/locking mechanism which should work out perfectly...

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    The underside of the mechanism is shown below. It is basically a length of aluminium strip that is secured to a L bracket, by the means of a small bolt to allow movement. This L bracket will be bolted to the sector plate to allow a little movement (twist) when the lever is pulled forward/back.
    The aluminium strip will have locating notches cut into it, to match the alignment of each track The aluminium strip will protrude through the baseboard frame, where another piece of aluminium will be secured to the baseboard frame to act as a key to lock the toothed section into. A handle will be bent 90*at the very end.

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    The force from thy Dark Lord and his electrickery is strong, but I will not be overcome by his pulling power !
    No need for any electrickery here, just a simple movement and locking system. I do like the KISS principle ! :D

    Cheers, Gary.
     
  5. Jul 10, 2016 #25
    Toto

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    Still witchcraft to me.
    Looks Convincing though ... :thumbs:

    cheers
    Toto
     
  6. Jul 11, 2016 #26
    ianvolvo46

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    I like the mechanics of that Gary it appears to follow Einstein's principles of choochoonlknowledgy... excellent

    Ian
     
  7. Jul 11, 2016 #27
    Gary

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    I'm positive that with the theory behind it, it will work ! :thumbs:

    If not, I can always use a section of threaded rod supported in bearings with a nut that secures to the sector plate, a few stepper motors, some electronics, a master board, a few switches, arduino...

    Hang on now, that's just the 'Dark Side' speaking... I think I'm hearing voices again... :avatar::avatar:

    Cheers, Gary.
     
  8. Jul 11, 2016 #28
    cmcan

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    Everyone,

    With all this Ye Olde English, dark side speak, can I request a.........Shrubbery!.........be made part of the competition?

    Gary, I also like the KISS principle, but at a louder volume. It's a pity their stage layouts don't adhere to that principle.

    Ok - attempt at humour out - as you were!

    Gary - again ingenuity at work. Can I borrow this solution for my layout at home - it solves how I create a feasible off stage area

    Cameron
     
  9. Jul 11, 2016 #29
    ed

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    Seem to remember a video of something similar you did before Gary, nice one :thumbup:

    Ed
     
  10. Jul 11, 2016 #30
    Gary

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    Cameron,

    What is this 'strange ways' you speak of, it is quite dark, loud, tongue twisting and you 'shout it out loud'.
    Be careful of 'going blind' in your 'flaming youth', as you have a 'reason to live' and you have 'nothin to lose'.
    I now call a 'duece' before 'all he ll's breaking loose'....! You 'got to choose', is this hell or hallelujah' ?
    I now refer you to as 'God of Thunder'... :avatar::avatar:

    Ok, back to reality, yes you can use this method. :thumbs:

    Ed,
    Thank you. Nothing slips past you, wise one ! :tophat:

    Cheers, Gary.
     
  11. Jul 11, 2016 #31
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    cmcan wrote:
    It is a good shrubbery. I like the laurel in particular. But there was is one problem.....
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RZvsGdJP3ng
     
  12. Jul 11, 2016 #32
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    WARNING THREAD DRIFT. MAY CONTAIN TRACES OF PYTHON.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RZvsGdJP3ng
     
  13. Jul 11, 2016 #33
    cmcan

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    Gary,

    What is a BO-BO configuration? I have seen a few models with this but didnt understood what it meant so i stayed away from purchasing them.

    Cameron
     
  14. Jul 11, 2016 #34
    paul_l

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    Hi Cameron

    From what I remember
    A = Single driven axel
    B = Twin driven axel
    C = Triple driven axel
    1 = Idleller non driven axel
    O is for own traction motor

    E.g.
    Cl 24 is a BO - BO two twin axel driven bogies each axel having its own traction motor
    Cl 37 is a CO- CO two three axel driven bogies each axel having its own traction motor
    Cl 22 hydraulic is a B-B
    Cl 31 A1A - A1A two bogies, consisting of a single driven axel, an idler and another driven axel
    Cl 40 1CO-CO1 two bogies with an idler +3 driven axels eack with its own traction motor, the idler axel to the outer ends of the loco

    Paul
     
  15. Jul 11, 2016 #35
    cmcan

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    Thanks paul
     
  16. Jul 14, 2016 #36
    Gary

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    Started on the sector plate today...

    First up, mark put the area of the sector plate. Drill out the corners to allow the jigsaw to be rotated.

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    Cut along the edge of the sector plate first, then cut out the angles (wings) to allow the sector plate to swivel.

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    Remove the sector plate piece and glue and nail a few braces/slides into postion. These will support the sector plate and stop any future sag.

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    A pic from the top.

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    Now replace the sector plate piece back in and make any adjustments at the curved end to allow smooth movement.

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    I'll continue this tomorrow and get all the manual mechanisms in place.

    Oh yes, this arrived in the post as well...

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    A very lovely 2nd hand, but perfect condition Heljin Class 33, courtesy of Hattons Pre-owned, (usual disclaimer, just a happy customer). Landed in Australia for under $120.00 (£68.00)...!! :thumbs:

    Cheers, Gary.
     
  17. Jul 14, 2016 #37
    SMR CHRIS

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    :thumbs::thumbs::thumbs::tophat:
     
  18. Jul 14, 2016 #38
    paul_l

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    keeping an eye on this :thumbs:, just to see if this low tech stuff holds water :avatar:

    Trying to gain the Ozzie perspective on this - using a glass of South Australian Merlot, to see if I reach enlightenment, may take a few more glasses, but I'm already begining to see a single road sector plate become a double http://www.click

    Paul
     
  19. Jul 14, 2016 #39
    Toto

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    Like the loco Gary. :thumbs: looking forward to the sector plate progressing.

    Cheers

    Toto
     
  20. Jul 14, 2016 #40
    Gary

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    Yes Paul, you are quite correct, it will be a 2 road sector plate. Each outer road on the plank will have access to the middle road, but the outer roads won't have access to the opposing outer road... :confused:

    As for low tech stuff holding water, this is as simple as a hole in the ground ! :D

    Just took delivery of a Hornby Mk1 Parcel Van in BR maroon. At £11.00 and less VAT, it was a bargain ! Yes it's Hornby Railroad, but hey, I have plenty of spare wheel sets to replace the plastic ones. :thumbup:

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    Cheers, Gary.
     
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