Luib Bridge

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  1. paul_l

    paul_l Staff Member Administrator

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    Hi Gary

    I think Tom is pinching some Deans connectors off me when he visits today

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10-pairs-of-Male-Female-Deans-T-Plug-Connector-Socket-for-RC-Lipo-Battery-/191707394888?hash=item2ca2a6b348:g:g8kAAOSwVL1WEDPT

    Used them for years with R/C car racing for both battery and motor connections and can easily handle 80A @ 7.2V, so should survive Tom's best efforts :avatar:

    Paul
     
  2. Toto

    Toto I'm best ignored Staff Member Founder Administrator

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    I have pinched deans connectors when I was up Helping Paul. ...... Dunno if helping is the right word.:avatar:

    Got some good ideas for legs for Luib bridge from Vicky Road so you know what's coming next. :avatar:

    On the agenda is ........ In no particular order ...... Install a UTP, link cab cable, links between the two baseboards for the track BUS and turnout polarity links to the switch 8 for two turnouts.install a set of legs with bolts etc ....... Hopefully switch on and ....... Hey presto. A very rough but running layout.

    I may get time through the week ( depending on what time I get home at ) to tackle some of these jobs one at a time.

    There we have it.

    Cheers

    Toto
     
  3. paul_l

    paul_l Staff Member Administrator

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    .... and don't forget to check that all your copper clad insulation cuts have been made.

    Does your multimeter have a continuity tester / buzzer, or have you got a fresh battery for your jeezus box ?

    If so with the boards split, connect the tester to the track bus - it should be silent, if not, you have a short, check the copper clad gaps, check that track feed are not crossed, check if the short still occurs after a point is thrown.

    Then test the other board.

    Once both boards are ok, bolt the boards together, connect the joiners and check again. At baseboard joints make sure the copper clad isn't forming a short if the insulation cuts overlap.

    Good hunting

    Paul
     
  4. Toto

    Toto I'm best ignored Staff Member Founder Administrator

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    Thank you Sir. That's hopefully Saturdays job. Amongst the others. However, connection of the stuff I've not yet done, trans baseboard links, isolating copper clad, initial power up, programming of switch 8 etc etc are all on the cards.

    Exciting or wot
     
  5. Toto

    Toto I'm best ignored Staff Member Founder Administrator

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    Well,

    Finally got round to ordering my platform walls from Townstreet.

    A set of six lengths, two ramps and four straights at 9 inches long each gives 4 foot six. They all interlock in place so there is no obvious join or whatever.

    £22.50 plus postage.

    Not bad considering it's O gauge. They paint up very well as do all there products.
     
  6. Toto

    Toto I'm best ignored Staff Member Founder Administrator

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    Tomorrow's or should I say todays tasks will be continuing with my electrics. However ..... domestics first. Pick up Buddha from post office, drop car of for MOT, go and get SWMBO's birthday pressie ( 26th of month ). Then ....... and only then I can get to the shed.
    Sunday ...... go to dragon and laws and put up two curtain rails, fix wall clock back on wall ( she's had the decorators in ) and source suitable YUASA back up battery for her house alarm. I took it out last week when all hell let loose. It wasn't recharging. well ....... it was about 15 years ago when I installed the alarm and the battery is only meant to last 5. not bad really.
    Now, I have to remember how to go through all the settings for setting the alarm back up again. ........ and the instructions are long gone. :facepalm:
    Did someone mention modeling.
     
  7. paul_l

    paul_l Staff Member Administrator

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    Hi Tom

    Following our conversation earlier today regarding a rotary connection for the turntable - here's an example

    https://www.aliexpress.com/item/M-slipring-slip-ring-with-hole-hole-Dia-5mm-6-Channel-2A-electric-Slip-Ring-Hollow/32663825415.html?spm=2114.01010208.3.81.tegEvc&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_2_10056_10065_10068_10055_10054_10069_10059_418_10073_10017_10071_10070_10060_10061_10052_10062_10053_10050_10051,searchweb201603_1&btsid=5ab55166-7c17-4b6c-8fa9-4528a6643afa

    A slip ring 6 channel (pole) 2A, connector for approx £14 inc p&p.

    Paul
     
  8. Gary

    Gary Wants more time for modelling.... Staff Member Administrator

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    A simple method for locating/locking and electrical conduction is to use this method.

    [​IMG]

    Cheers, Gary.
     
  9. paul_l

    paul_l Staff Member Administrator

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    Hi Gary, thats very similar to the method Tom is using, however, he is thinking of having the turntable / bridge to be in the scenic section as a swing bridge, and needs the power to remain on to the section to keep the sound locos happy and singing.

    Paul
     
  10. Toto

    Toto I'm best ignored Staff Member Founder Administrator

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    Hi Gary / Paul,
    thats similar to what I have at the moment Gary but Paul and I reckoned that maybe a more reliable full time feed to the bridge itself would be better,
    https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/electrical-capsule-slip-ring_910315114.html
    The above is what I have just ordered ..... well thats not the exact one but its similar with nthe same spec ....... 2A loading and the physical size is the same with a 13mm depth for the bush.
    Whilst my pushy inny bits work the same as yours, I'm not overly confident on the electrical conductivity, so the doofery thing will be a belt and braces measure.
    I've also sent for a polarity reverser ( PSX - AR ) which will be used in conjunction with the doofer. I rekindled the idea after reading Peter's Marsden thread. ............ Wait until I get my hands on him !!!!!!
    I am also thinking of wiring the last set of switches on my cobalts up to either a NCE Aux panel or a NCE mini panel to automate the points to either my power cab or JMRI. I have both the devices going spare at the moment.
    There will be an element of learning curve to programme these to talk to each other through the various interfaces ( Paul ) but to be honest, with a little advice from the Messiah I think I'll get it. The NCE kit has been reasonably straight forward to date. ( with the odd tantrum thrown in for good measure along the way ).
    cheers for now
    Toto
     
  11. Toto

    Toto I'm best ignored Staff Member Founder Administrator

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    Still awaiting my bits and bobs from coastal DCC. Hopefully arrive soon.

    Was in the shed tonight looking out my clamps as I am on with the hotel build for Victoria a Road. ...... Well we'll wait and see how it turns out. :avatar:

    Could be faulty towers.

    Cheers

    Toto
     
  12. Toto

    Toto I'm best ignored Staff Member Founder Administrator

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    Carded by the postman today so something's arrived, just dunno what. Trip to the collection office first thing tomorrow.

    Toto
     
  13. Toto

    Toto I'm best ignored Staff Member Founder Administrator

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    Hit the post office ........ PSX - AR now in my stock drawer.:thumbs:

    Now just a UTP to come.

    Toto.
     
  14. Toto

    Toto I'm best ignored Staff Member Founder Administrator

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    The PSX - AR

    Dunno if that's loaded. Working from my I Pad

    Let's try
     
  15. Toto

    Toto I'm best ignored Staff Member Founder Administrator

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    No ...... It's not. I'll send it via my PC later ...... Worth a try.

    Toto
     
  16. Toto

    Toto I'm best ignored Staff Member Founder Administrator

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    OK after a bit of a wait,Ok
    the PSX AR
    [​IMG]

    and today my UTP panel thingy bobber arrived as well.
    [​IMG]

    and there we have it
    cheers
    toto
     
  17. Gary

    Gary Wants more time for modelling.... Staff Member Administrator

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    I haven't a clue what I'm looking at. :scratchchin: Can you explain what these gadgets do please.

    Cheers, Gary.
     
  18. Toto

    Toto I'm best ignored Staff Member Founder Administrator

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    Neither do I.

    Just joking ( but admittedly quite believable ) :avatar:

    The PSX AR does a couple of things. Initially although not strictly what I bought it for it will act as a protection circuit for Luib bridge ( given the loads that some loco's could potentially try and pull through the layout ) so ...... It's a circuit breaker just like the PSX 's that John Dew advised to protect Rosebuddy with.

    Secondly ..... The A R tag on the end is for Auto Reverser. Which you will probably now is for reversing the polarity of circuits, especially where you have a Wye or a turntable or a reversing loop which can have the potential to short circuit due to polarity changes.

    This circuitry automatically detects this happening and swithches the polarity for you ( no need for switches or other gizzmo's to be switched manually ) before it has the ability for the short to cut out the circuit.

    I don't know if I have explained it 100 % technically correct but that's my understanding of it.

    The UTP panel is a method of connecting your Power cab to the layouts BUS just like the PCP that you will have been supplied with when you bought your power an.

    So I hear you say ....... Why not just use the PCP that came with your power cab toto. Well ...... As you know Gary ....... Nothing ever that simple in my world. :avatar:

    I am connecting a 5 amp power booster to Luib Bridge in order to provide enough power to the beast. My O Gauge class 25 and that changes the rules a bit. In order to wire the power booster up and leave enough ways etc for the handset and link cables etc a UTP rather than a PCP is now required. Paul will explain it better as no doubt I will have missed out some critical piece of information.

    So anyway. That's about it. There will be a little reading required in order to ensure that everything is wired in the correct order but to be honest they are reasonably well chronicled in the instructions and like any protection circuit whether in a house or on a model railway circuit it's pretty obvious where in the circuit it needs to be connected in order to do ite job and " protect the circuit. The auto reverser element of it is quite straight forward as that will be fed up through the centre column of my turntable ( hence the need for the roundy conductive bearing thingy that I have sent away for ) and fed to the track above to provide it power and work it's magic.

    I trust I have suitably confused you with my mutterings.:avatar:

    Cheers toto

    PS back on to getting Luib Bridge wired up gizzmo's and all once Dundee is over. Looking forward to it.
     
  19. ianvolvo46

    ianvolvo46 Staff Member Moderator

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    Ok got that ... but at what point do you add the eye of newt and tongue of bat ....?

    :scratchchin:
     
  20. Toto

    Toto I'm best ignored Staff Member Founder Administrator

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    That was done long time ago at the planning stages dafty.:facepalm:
    Anyway ...... hopefully now we are in the aftermath of the Dundee exhibition, Luib Bridge may appear from the shed next weekend for some electrical progress.
    still mending my feet from this weekend. :avatar:
    I'll need to tidy away the exhibition stuff to be able to move in the shed again.
    cheers
    toto
     

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