Toto's work bench

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  1. Toto

    Toto I'm best ignored Staff Member Founder Administrator

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    Thank you Minnion.
     
  2. mattc6911

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    we are here to serve oh masterfull one :worship: :worship: :worship:
     
  3. Toto

    Toto I'm best ignored Staff Member Founder Administrator

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    Well ........ fair enough ......... but remember your place. ....... :hammer:
     
  4. Toto

    Toto I'm best ignored Staff Member Founder Administrator

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    What does the USB interface thingy that goes between the lappy and the NCE look like again :avatar:
     
  5. Toto

    Toto I'm best ignored Staff Member Founder Administrator

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    Well, here we are this weeks project for when working away. I could be moving between hotels this week but I would imagine that I'd get at least two evenings to play ...... I mean test my locos and take the baptism of fire with JMRI.
    here is what is going with me this week.
    first up my death defying class 33 which nearly came to a very premature end one fine day whilst being nearly converted to a machine of flight.

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    up next, my favorite, the class 22
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    and now, for your entertainment ........ a class 24.
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    and a class 37 ....... Strathclyde Region.
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    I have the loco's that I just chipped recently ( 5 of ) but cat remember what they were. So nine locos in total to run in and get onto the JMRI loco roster.
    Now for the hardware, ....... my rolling road.....
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    and again,
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    extra wheel rollers,
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    and again,
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    and now ....... terraaaaaaa My NCE power cab.
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    whats in the box ???????? the all essential dod of track.
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    A dod of wire to connect the rolling road to the doofer,. [​IMG]
    and then ........the doofer ........... you can see the two connections where the two power supply cables go to the rolling road,[​IMG]
    and then there is the wotsit which acts as the interface between the main connection doofer to the Lappy.

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    and another of the doofer,
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    with two cable ports, one of which goes to the wotsit and the other to the power Cab throttle
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    and the faithfully manual which is very good ........... apart from the intellectually challenged ...... me.

    Well that will give you an idea as to whats required to do the job. If I remember to pack the camera, I will post up the set up once its connected and possibly some screen shots of JMRI and the rolling road in action.
    wish me luck ......... I'm about to take a leap of faith into the dark side........:avatar:

    cheers
    toto
     
  6. paul_l

    paul_l Staff Member Administrator

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    A rough translation would be

    doofer = PCP or PowerCab Panel
    wotsit = USB interface

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    With the led on the bottom, connect the powercab with the flat cable to the left hand socket, and the USB into either the right hand or rear sockets, using the curly cable.

    Paul
     
  7. Toto

    Toto I'm best ignored Staff Member Founder Administrator

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    Thank you oh great one. I shall probably have a bit of a share screen session on JMRI with you. Does any particular evening suit.

    My 8 pin decoders did not arrive this weekend either. Probably tomorrow but I'll be away. ......... Drat. Never mind I still have the nine loco's to play around with and run I on the rolling road. The JMRI will be good fun as well.

    Cheers

    Toto
     
  8. Gary

    Gary Wants more time for modelling.... Staff Member Administrator

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    Let me know when the Class 33 and Class 22 are fully functional. I could do with those two locomotives here in Oz.... :avatar:

    Cheers, Gary.
     
  9. SRman

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    People do complain about the NCE manuals, but, in my opinion, they are amongst the better ones around. You should try the Digitrax one: fully comprehensive, but almost totally incomprehensible!!

    My personal preference for the NCE PCP plug sockets is to have the LED uppermost, so it doesn't get obscured by the trailing leads. I also put a prominent arrow marking on the panel to remind me which side the Power Cab should plug into as a command unit. Some users say that the contacts are better at the bottom of the panel so they don't gather dust, but since my own cabs remain plugged in fairly permanently, I don't consider that to be a problem. (I have a Power Pro system for the main layout but a Power Cab almost permanently attached to the programming track).

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    With Decoder Pro from JMRI on your computer, and the USB interface to the Power Cab, you can also create virtual throttles on the computer screen and drive and control trains from there. Decoder Pro is extremely useful for fine-tuning locomotives, and also for restoring settings if you stuff up the fine-tuning (i.e. make it worse!).

    If you want to add speed tables rather than the cruder CV5 top speed and CV6 mid-speed settings, the software makes it so much easier and offers several labour-saving options to fill in the intermediate values.

    I like your locomotive collection, and have several of those myself, including having fitted sound into some of them. If you ever get that far, I can thoroughly recommend both Howes and legomanbiffo's sounds for the class 33, 37 and 24, but the class 22 sounds are a little boring (albeit, as accurate as Bryan from Howes could get them with no surviving members of the class around to record).

    Good luck with the new set up, and have fun with it.
     
  10. Gary

    Gary Wants more time for modelling.... Staff Member Administrator

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    Speaking of Class 22s with sound... This has an Loksound decoder and sound from Digitrains

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idmE-cgffcU



    Cheers, Gary.
     
  11. Toto

    Toto I'm best ignored Staff Member Founder Administrator

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    Hi SR man,

    Thanks for that. I am considering setting up for a play tonight. Depends how much my brain has been turned to mush at work today. :avatar:

    The manuals are good as you say ...... But..... There are one or two steps described that don't do as they say when programming your loco's. I'll be a bit more precise when I find out where they are again. It's not a tragedy but just a little misleading. Otherwise they are good.

    I've read up somewhere about the setting of speed curves etc. doesn't look too difficult.

    I spoke with legomanbiffo at the Scottish show and heard some of his sounds. Very impressed. I have been trying to get his details for contacting him in person again as I had a couple of queries for him. No success as yet. I'll track him down though.

    I'll try and post a couple of piccies up when I'm on JMRI . Unfortunately it's just my I phone as I forgot to pack the camera this week.

    Paul has taken me for a guided tour of the loco roster etc but it's out my head already. Could be a steep learning curve again however the maestro himself did say he'd do a screen session with me. The air could be blue. :avatar:

    I purposely left my DMU's at home as they are a bit more involved having two and sometimes three decoders to think about. Again Paul has shown me a cloning technique but let's start of simple.:avatar: I may attempt a DMU next week.

    Which reminds me ...... I am awaiting a box of 5 eight pin decoders to arrive from Hattons. That's another task for next week.

    I have heard Gary's class 22 sound ( which he installed himself ) clever man. It sounded good to me ..... There again ...... I can't remember how they sounded anyway. You could have recorded a Robin Reliant and I would have believed you. :avatar:

    Cheers for now and stay tuned ..........

    Toto
     
  12. SRman

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    I was going to post a link to one of my videos of various sound-fitted locos and units but I realised I haven't yet done one of the class 22 with sound, only one I did pre-sound-fitting.

    Seeing as I'm now on school holidays, I might use some of the "quiet" time to do a little more video recording (while the wife's at work, seeing as she always manages to make loud noises in the background when I attempt to video anything while she is home!!).
     
  13. Toto

    Toto I'm best ignored Staff Member Founder Administrator

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    Looking forward to it ...... Lock the doors :lol:
     
  14. Toto

    Toto I'm best ignored Staff Member Founder Administrator

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    Well,

    Got me loco's out, set up the rolling road, started cabling up.......whoaaaaaaa there camel. Wrong adapter. Looks like I may have picked up the one for the power pro rather than the power cab as the wee round Jack plug is too big for the hole on the circuit board.

    The circuit board was a spare one that I bought with the power pro. Maybe the power cab has a slightly different fitting. Anyway, there will be nothing happening here that's for sure. What a waste of time and effort carrying all that crap up the stairs to my room. Like a pack horseI I was.

    Got an email from Hattons my 8 pin decoders are on their way. I am surprised as they were ordered late on Thursday night of last week. Last time I ordered them slightly later and they arrived the next day. Never mind, they will be there for me getting home on Friday.

    Don't know if I can do any prep work on JMRI without the Jack plug ?

    Cheers

    Toto
     
  15. SRman

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    The Power Pro uses screw terminals and plugs like the ones for the track terminals on your Power Cab Panel (see Paul's post #106 above).

    Are you sure the plug doesn't fit? They can be a bit tight, especially when brand new.
     
  16. Toto

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    I'm sure , one takes a 2.5mm Jack and the other a 2.1 mm Jack. ....... USA versus UK apparently.
     
  17. Toto

    Toto I'm best ignored Staff Member Founder Administrator

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    Problem possibly resolved. I got a 2.5 to 2.1 plug reducer doofer from Maplins today.

    I shall try again tonight. I'll keep you posted

    Cheers

    Toto
     
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    If I hold my breathe will I expire.....
     
  19. Toto

    Toto I'm best ignored Staff Member Founder Administrator

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    I'd exhale now. Still no good. I'll have to wait until I get home and get the correct power pack.
    Now to hump all this crap back down to the car again.
    disasterous week.

    never mind.
    toto
     
  20. Toto

    Toto I'm best ignored Staff Member Founder Administrator

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    Got it on good authority that my decoders arrived today. That's Friday evening taken care of then. Maybe Saturday depending if I decide to start the JMRI. I'm about wetting myself whilst I wait to get onto that now.

    Cheers

    Toto
     

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