Yarrawa Terminus Layout.

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  1. red clubbie

    red clubbie Full Member

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    Guys,

    I'm new to the Forum and I'm building my first HO scale Layout.
    It is a Terminus Station and Yard, based on Australian NSW
    practice. It is a fictitious Station set on a branchline off the Muswellbrook
    to Merriwa line in the Hunter Valley region of NSW. Timeframe is late 1950's to late 1960's.
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    This is a rough Track Plan that I am working off.
    It is two modules of 1.6m each.

    I will be working on it, as and when I have time.

    Any questions welcomed....

    Cheers,
    Geoff.
     
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  2. Jim Freight

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    Welcome Geoff, my era albeit a different country, it'll be interesting to see how it develops, looks good for operating potential, Jim
     
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    Good one Geoff,.....:thumbs:
    Looking forward to watching it develop
    :tophat:Gormo
     
  4. Gary

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    G'day Geoff,

    That is a very prototypical track plan for the NSWGR !

    The NSWGR had a very simple track plan for most of their branch lines. Your plan resembles that of Berry, Curlewis and Gulargambone with the run around loop, the goods loop and the short end spurs for a loading ramp or just wagon and locomotive storage !

    I'd be interested to see which station building and goods shed you'll be using on the layout.

    Looking forward to updates. :thumbs::thumbs::thumbs:

    Cheers, Gary.
     
  5. jakesdad13

    jakesdad13 Staff Member Moderator

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    Looks to be an excellent project Geoff, please keep the updates coming!!

    Pete.
     
  6. red clubbie

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    Thanks for the welcome guys, it's much appreciated.

    Gary, I will be using the Walker Models kits for the Station and Goods Shed.
    They make an A-3 Station and a G2 Goods Shed. They are laser cut timber kits. They should be sufficient for my needs.

    I have built one of their Cream Shed kits, which will sit on the Platform just down from the Station building.
    I was impressed with the quality of the kit.

    I did base the Track Plan on a generic NSWGR plan, but I added some changes to give me some operating interest.

    Cheers,
    Geoff.
     
  7. Gary

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    Stuart makes some great kits. I scratch built an A3 Station Building and the G2 Goods shed many, many years ago using Data Sheets I purchased from Casula Hobbies. I was inspired by James McInerney after seeing his layout Lambing Flat when I was 18 or 19 at a 'Modelling The Railways of NSW back in the late 80's (?), held at Revesby Community Centre in Sydney.

    Cheers, Gary.
     
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    Hey Geoff,
    Love the track plan and the era you have chosen, nice simple easy to use and plenty of scope.

    Looking forward to seeing it develop.....
     
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    Gary,
    You mention one amazing layout mate,
    Lambing Flats.
    Fell in love with it when I first saw it, a wonder to behold indeed.
    A credit to MR McInerney
     
  10. red clubbie

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    I had the pleasure of being invited by James to see the Layout when he was at Ashfield. That would have been in the late 80's-early 90's.
    He had it setup in a loft area and you climbed up a drop down ceiling ladder in his hallway to access it.
    It really is a great Layout and gives you something to aspire to......

    Cheers,
    Geoff.
     
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    If you are on facebook, James is in the group 'Modelling the railways of NSW 1855 to now', and the extension he has been working on is beautiful ! Here is a photo of Lambing Flat courtesy of James McInerney.


    Cheers, Gary.
     
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    Hi Gary,

    Yes, I am in that group.

    The work he has done on the extension is certainly beautiful.
    His attention to detail is first class.....

    Cheers,
    Geoff.
     
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    I'm moving forward with the baseboard construction

    The Layout consists of 2 modules, each 1.6 m long and 425mm wide.
    i will be using Peco code 75 streamline track with medium radius electrofrog points.
    The 8 points will be controlled via Colbalt IP Digital point motors with an NCE Power Cab DCC system.

    I'm currently setting up the track plan but i had one question.....

    I was going to lay the track directly on to the plywood base for a couple of reasons, but before I did, I thought I'd better ask the question.......
    From my thinking, it will be easier to transfer the track plan to the plywood directly. I don't think I will need a cork underlay for noise suppression, as the
    Layout is a shunting layout with the train speeds being slow and because it is a Terminus Station and Yard area, I don't really need ballasted shoulders, as
    the mainlines have.....

    Is this reasoning sound??

    Cheers,
    Geoff.
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    A view from the other end..... 030.JPG

    Some of the woodworking is not as good as I would have liked, but it is what it is and it will be disguised.

    Cheers,
    Geoff.
     
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  15. Gary

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    Your reasoning is sound. I build my baseboards using 42 x 19mm pine for the frame, either 3mm or 6mm MDF for the top. On top of the MDF I glue down 30mm thick sheets of insulation foam available from Bunnings (Knauf or Bastion branded).

    The beauty of the foam is that I can sculpt land forms below track level as for culverts/streams etc.



    When I started building my Kelly Bray layout (British OO), I covered the whole board with 3mm cork sheet.


    On my Industry Lane layout, I smeared modelling clay between the tracks to bring the ground level up to that of the sleepers as I wanted that buried yard look. This could also be filled in with cork sheet.


    So, my answer would be not to worry about the cork strips !

    Cheers, Gary.
     
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    Gary,

    Thanks for your comments, they are always welcome.

    I can understand the cork strips for a mainline layout, where trains are travelling at higher speeds and a ballasted
    shoulder is needed for the prototypical look, but I didn't think it necessary for a Yard.

    Thanks for confirming.....

    Cheers,
    Geoff.
     
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    Totally agree. The cork sheet that covers the whole baseboard on my old Kelly Bray layout was put in as a sound deadener and also to cover a few holes in the old baseboards. ;)

    Cheers, Gary.
     
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  18. jakesdad13

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    When you get around to ballasting, don't go down the mainline ballast route, these yards and the lines running in would have a much lighter ballast, back in the steam days most companys would use the ash from their locos for ballast. Have a look at Stephen Fays loco shed threads, very much the norm for back in the day.

    Cheers, Pete.
     
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  19. Gary

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    Not necessarily in NSW Pete. All our railways were owned by the State Government. The only area where ash was dumped was in loco servicing, generally into a pit or besides the track.

    We had a fine ballast on our branchlines and over time, the sleepers sunk into the ground, leaving the tops of the sleepers showing and a very fine ballast, around an inch, inch and a half in size. This pic of Dumaresq shows it in detail.


    and this one at Cowra...


    Cheers, Gary.
     
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    A bit more movement on the layout over the weekend...

    The layout is up on it's legs and I attached the backdrop to see how it fitted. it needs some adjustment, but it looks OK.

    I attached my backdrop scene with pegs to get an idea of the look of it.
    It's a bit different, more of a stormy scene, but I like it. 017.JPG 011.JPG 012.JPG
     

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