Highland Railway 7 ton timber wagon - Type L

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  1. Mossy

    Mossy A classic grump Yorkshire man Full Member

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    That green resin is a lurid colour. But I am intensely jealous, I can just fit a wagon body on the build plate of the mono, your there with 3 side by side.
    I can see why you recommended buying the mono x rather than the mono, its a pity finances didn't stretch that far, but never say never.

    Mossy
     
  2. paul_l

    paul_l Staff Member Administrator

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    Hi Mossy

    Notice I only lifted the model on one axis, it may also work for you, normally I end up rotating models with large undersides in both X & Y axis to stop the underside looking as if its melted, but the green resin has printed perfectly, so maybe I have been under curing the resin.

    I moved away from using the green resin as it's very difficult to see the detail until you give it a coat of paint - maybe happen tomorrow as my daughter has arranged a day of activities for me in her garden - Build Green house, attach trellacing you know all the fun stuff I avoid doing in my own garden.

    I've sliced the project for an increased cure time of 3.0 sec per normal layer from 2.4 sec, and as a test I've upped the second lift speed to 240 from 180, the net effect is a small change in overall cure time. If the results are ok then I will modify the standard cure settings

    Paul
     
  3. Mossy

    Mossy A classic grump Yorkshire man Full Member

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    I'm lucky I have a gardener, sadly it also comes under the heading swmbo.
    Your green is my black, I have just ordered some grey as I am sick of peering trying to pick out details in the black.
     
  4. paul_l

    paul_l Staff Member Administrator

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    Suppose its better than being Orange (TV series Orange is the new Black).

    40 mins remaining on the print, and is looking good from what I can see

    Paul
     
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    paul_l Staff Member Administrator

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    It worked




    With the supports removed - still not cured yet




    A happy camper, with 6 timber wagons but no Chassis, and no wheels for my wagons, looks like I need to get some brownie points before I send off for several sets of spoked wagon wheels. I wonder if I can get bulk packs ?

    Paul
     
  6. Mossy

    Mossy A classic grump Yorkshire man Full Member

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    They look very good. I left a test print of one side and end of the V1/2 brake printing as we have been out most of the day. I havent had a chance to go up and check it out yet but it's black, can't wait to get some grey resin so I can see what's going on.

    Wheels, have you tried the ones produced by Haywoods, slightly cheaper than the other offerings email (GP.Gill@yahoo.co.uk). If you want a bulk order he may even offer a discount, nothing like trying is there!

    Mossy
     
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    paul_l Staff Member Administrator

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    Fingers crossed for your print.

    Thanks for the Haywoods, I will give them a look.

    Paul
     
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    Mossy A classic grump Yorkshire man Full Member

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    Hi Paul,

    You can uncross your fingers sadly they didn't help, all that printed was the raft of the van side and the raft and a few truncated supports of the door.

    Last night I drained the resin vat and has a good clean out. The resin was filtered going out and filtered again when it went back in. All the print parameters were reset to those recommended in the manual, then the RERF was reprinted very successfully. Since the failure I have again drained and filtered the resin and recleaned the vat, there was a lot of failure debris to clean out. I cant see any damage to the FEP plate so thats good. Having just eaten I am going to set printing a small test piece just to ensure everything is ok again.

    All part of the learning curve I guess.


    Mossy
     
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    Andy_Sollis Staff Member Moderator

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    I’ve only used fusion for colouring and render. Still hark back to what I know on the old system.
    Mind you, my unpaid version has now gone to only allowing 10 files to be altered (yea you can swap and change) but it’s a ball ache at times when your working on a combined model.
     
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    Andy_Sollis Staff Member Moderator

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    Wow Paul!! Wow!!

    that looks good!
    Andy
     
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    Oh dear mate..

    I wonder what’s going on?

    have you reset the home position again or not?
    Any photos may help us help you?

    Andy
     
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    Mossy A classic grump Yorkshire man Full Member

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    Hi Andy,

    I decided to move the printer to a more sensible place, so I:

    Drained and filtered the resin tank.
    Cleaned out the failure crude from the tank then cleaned it with paper towelling and IPA.
    Inspected the FEP for damage = there isn't anything visible.

    Clean the build plate with towelling and IPA.
    Re-leveled the build plate as per the instructions.
    After all the faffing about earlier in the week I then reset Chuitbox with the recommended settings from the Mono manual
    I then reprinted the RERF model without any defects or damaged.

    I then decided to print a van side and door mainly to see how the planking came out.
    The van side failed either in printing the skate or just after - there was no sign of any supports so I am guessing in the skate print phase.

    The door did a little better the skate printed but only 15-205 of the supports partially printed the rest failed.
    Precious little to photograph frankly.

    I then drained reclean the resin vat as above and since there wasn't a great deal of resin left its sat in a sealed container.
    I then loaded the vat with fresh resin.

    Second print was the door only, lying flat with 36 supports on a model roughly 3.6cm x 3.5cm x 1mm.
    Again the failure was at the point of transitioning from the skate to the supports.

    That's pretty much where I am up to, today has been a grand-parenting day.

    Any suggestions/ideas gratefully received.

    Mossy
     
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    paul_l Staff Member Administrator

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    Hi Mossy

    Your base layer exposure seems ok, but your normal exposure time is too short

    Here is my Craftsman grey resin settings from Chitubox

    upload_2021-8-20_21-8-56.png

    You need to increase your Exposure Time highlighted in Yellow.

    Remember the above settings are for a Mono X, your lift distance will probably be 6 to 8 mm.

    Paul
     
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    Mossy A classic grump Yorkshire man Full Member

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    Paul,

    I will give it a go, nowt to lose. The exposure time recommended was 0.8, bottom layer 6 and lift distance 6mm.

    Mossy
     
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    paul_l Staff Member Administrator

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    My normal resin exposure for Standard Grey and Eco White and now Green is 2.4 sec.
    I may try the Standard grey at the Craftsman setting if I order more up. I suppose I will need to do a HR Passenger tank print with the Craftsman Grey to compare the prints.

    Needing to start the wagon chassis, beauty is apart from the brake arrangements I can use the same base chassis other 3 wagon drawings I have.

    Paul
     
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    Andy_Sollis Staff Member Moderator

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    Seems there is something wrong in the slice setting, but looks like Paul
    May have sussed that your under exposing? Surely for the mono it’s somewhere nearer 6-7 seconds a layer?? Am I wrong with that?
    Andy
     
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    paul_l Staff Member Administrator

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    Hi Andy, the Mono & Mono X would appear to have similar exposure ranges , the Photon & Photon S (the RGB screens rather than Mono screens) exposure range is 6 to 12 sec depending on the resin and model.

    Paul
     
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    paul_l Staff Member Administrator

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    Start made on the W iron.

    upload_2021-8-21_0-50-49.png

    I know it should be curved, but I have a cunning plan, I have made the supports finish at the underside of the floor. I intend to print the chassis as a sub assembly, but I'm not sure whether the chassis will be fully sprung, rigid or pivot compensation on one axle - you never know all three versions may appear. The chassis assembly will also carry the springing for the buffers.

    Still at the pencil and paper stage at the moment.

    Paul
     
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    There you go, my error!
     
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    Trying a test print of buffers on the Mono X, I've dropped the Exposure time to 2.8s from 3.0s.

    The first batch were printed on the Photon, so I opened the project file, but this time with the Mono X selected in the settings profile. Duplicated 4 times to fill the build plate and auto arranged.

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    Only an hour to wait for 64 buffer heads and bodies to print.

    Settings used were

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    No progress on the chassis, but did test fit a Peco coupling hook and a pair of the buffers



    Paul
     

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